The Lyme 360 Podcast: Heal+

EP 97: Colonics to the Stars, Karin Nahmani Joins Us To Talk About Colon Cleansing for Optimal Health

March 29, 2022 Mimi MacLean
The Lyme 360 Podcast: Heal+
EP 97: Colonics to the Stars, Karin Nahmani Joins Us To Talk About Colon Cleansing for Optimal Health
Show Notes Transcript

Karin Nahmani is known as the Colonic to the Stars and is the owner of SoCal based colonics facility, Pure Center. She has worked as a certified colon hydrotherapist since 2001 and is the author of Shit Isn't a Dirty Word, a book that tackles the most common but taboo issue that people are facing and offers practical solutions to achieve a healthy colon.

Tune in to hear this insightful conversation about how important regularity is for optimal health, why colonics is less about colon cleansing and more about releasing emotional baggage and internalized negativity, and her philosophy on life and her work.

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 Mimi:
Welcome to the Lyme 360 Podcast, for all things related to Lyme disease and other chronic illnesses. I'm Mimi MacLean, mom of five, founder of Lyme 360 and a fellow Lyme warrior. Tune in each week to hear from doctors, health practitioners and experts to learn about their treatments, struggles and triumphs, to help you on your healing journey. I'm here to heal with you.

Mimi:
Before we get started today, I wanted to talk to you about Dr. Bill Rawls. He has written one of my favorite Lyme books, Unlocking Lyme. He's an MD whose life was upended because of Lyme. From this experience, he had to change his practice and figured out how to heal himself. Dr. Rawls has created his own line of herbal supplements that support the immune system as a Lyme warrior. He offers a survey on his website to help determine which supplements you need. Go to Lyme360.com/drrawls, to learn more about these amazing herbal protocols I have been using.

Mimi:
Hi, welcome back to the Lyme 360 Podcast. This is your host Mimi MacLean. And today, we have on Karin Nahmani. And she is known as the colonics to the stars due to her celebrity clientele. Karin holds a Bachelors in Science and credentials as a naturopathic doctor from NDDY College in Israel. She has worked as a certified colon hydrotherapist since 2001 and has owned and operated pure center, which is a digestive health and colonics clinic in Los Angeles, California. She is the author of Shit Isn't a Dirty Word, which is a book that tackles the most common but taboo issue that people are facing and offers practical solutions to achieve a healthy colon.

Mimi:
To get my detox for Lyme checklist, go to Lyme360.com/detoxchecklist.

Mimi:
Thank you so much for coming on today. I really appreciate it. I'm a huge fan of colonics. And so I am excited to talk to you because I definitely think it's part of the healing journey with Lyme disease and the digestion and getting your toxins out. And I'm excited to talk about your book. You're the author of Shit Isn't a Dirty Word, which I love the name. That's great. So let's talk a little bit about your practice you've had since 2001, maybe, is that when it started?

Karin:
Yeah, about.

Mimi:
In LA, and it's called Pure Center.

Karin:
Yeah. Simple as it sounds, Pure Center, like pure body, like pure soul, like pure everything. It was so funny, even when I found the name, I was just thinking about something like just something clean. And I hated back then to see all those picture with the colon or those heart shape next to the belly or water flow. I was like, I just need something clean, something that represents me in another way. So I was like Pure Center and someone yelled it like, "Just call it Pure Center." I'm like, "[inaudible 00:03:05] that's the name"

Mimi:
That's great. That's awesome. Now what got you into... How do you [inaudible 00:03:11] a hydrotherapist?

Karin:
Yeah. Usually, you would define me as a hydrotherapist or colon hydrotherapist or just therapist in general. Under my hat, I have a lot of titles. I don't use even colon therapist to tell the truth. I'm just Karin, that's whoever knows me.

Mimi:
You're also a naturopathic doctor, correct?

Karin:
Yeah. So I started my journey as naturopathic doctor. And you know how you decide along the way what you like, what you don't like, part of my training was detox and colonics and I kind of fell in love with it, with one thing, and I saw what it did to people. I started my journey with cancer patient. That's when it hit me and click with me, amazing. I wanted something that people will come and do it, not thinking about what they do and you don't need to go back home and think about it and process. I wanted to see something right there and it found me more than I found that, because back then I don't have to tell you colonic wasn't big, back not in 2000, not in '99. And my main thing was body treatment, like massage, reflexology, healing, reiki, and I'm good at. So I moved to the state to teach massage and that's how we found each other.

Karin:
I had run a massage school for almost two and a half, three years. Tons of students under my hand, did what I loved to do. And I did colonics on this side. And from, I think back into 2001 or 2002, I told my husband that's it I'm opening my own place. He's like, "Karin, who's going to come for colonics." I'm like, "I promise you. I want to be from the first one that starts, not from the one that comes at the end." I want to be the seed. Even when I came to the state, they looked at me like a lunatic, like, "What do you do? Colonics, massage?."

Mimi:
Most of the people, if you do find it back then, it's like going for a while, you'd have to go into a basement where you'd have to like go into someone's back alley of their house.

Karin:
[inaudible 00:05:34]

Mimi:
I'd be like, "What am I doing?" I'm sneaking around, wasn't like a normal storefront.

Karin:
Even today when I tell that story to my kids or even my husband, my husband was amazing and very nice. He gave me [inaudible 00:05:52] amount of money and he was, "Karin, I do believe in you, but I don't believe people will come for colonics. You're crazy." And this is... We lived far. I mean, the city was an hour away from my house. I would drive for one treatment. I didn't care.

Mimi:
Wow.

Karin:
I mean, I was in the mainstream, but it flew. I don't know how, but it... I mean, the word spread.

Mimi:
You have a lot of celebrities too, and I feel like celebrities are into the whole healing treatment. They're much more in tune with their bodies and taking care of themselves and [inaudible 00:06:35]

Karin:
I do. But in Tinseltown, do what I do. They don't share. No one shares.

Mimi:
They don't want to tell people?

Karin:
Yeah. No one share your secret, but you know, something, I can tell you that in the past five years, there is more awareness. Before that, it was taboo clothes. It was so funny that people would meet in my office when they finish. They were like, "Oh, you are here too." Now I understand from my client that they know me because they're like, "No, no, I understood they coming to you" because it's like they describe something it's so you. I mean, my name is actually really strong among a lot of people. I do it for many years. Now, if you had experience with colonics, you know that you need to more than just trust the person that does it to you. You basically open your heart, emotions, body, secrets, everything.

Mimi:
It's a very vulnerable position to be in.

Karin:
True. The 45 minutes, and you need to kind of give yourself to me as a practitioner and I need to take you, as I like to describe, as a dough and create the most amazing, amazing bread with everything, so we can laugh and cry and you need to feel that you're so secure in the most vulnerable minutes of your life. And every time you come for a treatment, it's always a different treatment, and there is always something you're going to get from the treatment, something that you probably needed. And it's amazing to see that journey. So yes, I started 21 years ago. I love every moment. I enjoy do what I do.

Mimi:
That's great. And you have probably seen since you worked a lot with cancer patients and my community's chronic illness and life, a lot of the issues stem from digestion and not detoxing.

Karin:
Right.

Mimi:
And that's one thing I learned is, in my experience, I had like the MTHFR gene, so it wasn't detoxing. I ran a marathon. I didn't even sweat. I never got, I'm always constipated. So I'm like, no wonder why I'm sick. Right. And so I would love to talk, do you see a similarity between your clients and people who are sick? Like they're either always constipated or they're not detoxing or they're not doing something correct.

Karin:
Yeah. Let me just kind of go back to just the beginning so the audience can believe it and understand. Colonics is cleaning your colon, mainly the big colon, the large colon, not intestines. Now most of our problem happened there; polyps, cancer. Most of the things happen there. Now, constipation in general, we can look at it two things. Constipation happens, first of all, from food or food that didn't digest or lack of digestion or holding up, holding constipation pretty much equal or emotional stress or emotional stage. There is so many things that can affect constipation.

Karin:
Now, a lot of the time, the stories I see is like, my mom or my grandma, or it's runs in the family. It could run in the family, but that means that something in the family goes wrong. And if you go on the history of the family, you see that all those women or men, they ask them to hold things, like don't express emotions, "Don't whine," "Oh, you need to go to the restroom. Not now. Hold it." You know how many times I hear mom say to their kids, hold it. No, we shouldn't hold shit. We need to let it go. I'm sorry if I'm offending anybody. I'm so sorry, but [crosstalk 00:10:47]

Mimi:
I'm [inaudible 00:10:48] New Jersey.

Karin:
That's my language. When we stand in an empty room and we yell, "Shit, it's releasing, it's relieved." The same thing, we have so much junk in our body and our mind is like, "Oh, if you are thin, oh, you're probably so clean. And if you're heavier, you're probably..." It's such a stupid thing to say. It's so wrong because that waste turned into plaque. For thin ladies, we're not going to see it, so they're going to suffer from tones of constipation, probably some rash on their skin, some headache and probably... I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. Looking at you, you probably had the same symptoms over the years. Now, digestion happens every day, every moment. If it doesn't come out in the right way, it's going to come out in the wrong way. So it's going to come as Lyme disease. It's going to come as rash, as headache, as cancers, polyps as constipation migrants, any skin problem. Have you seen?

Mimi:
[inaudible 00:12:04] rheumatoid arthritis.

Karin:
Oh, RA. RA is one of the topic I treat a lot. I have a client that actually wrote a book about treating RA with colonics, and it's like, it's amazing. And it's amazing to see every time they're different when they come with the swelling of her knees and it's all connected. When you eat something that you shouldn't eat, it's affects your digestion system.

Mimi:
How do you do that? How could that affect my elbow? Just because of something [inaudible 00:12:37] chronic illness, it's like inflammation.

Karin:
Amazing. Inflammation. Now, inflammation happened because of food usually, 99% it will happen because of food you intake. For example, for Lyme and RA, I would recommend not to eat any dairies, any gluten, especially shellfish, stay away from shellfish. And my client always liked to test it. Yeah. She always liked to put me on test, and she always forgets I follow her on Instagram or Facebook, and I always like message her like, "Dude, two more and you got to be swollen." She's like, "Karin, I know, but it's so good," and it's like a back and forth. That's the relationship I have with my clients.

Mimi:
No, but it's great though, because it's a good point. If you eat something you know, if you listen to your body, it's kind of like when you go out at night and you know you had too many drinks, you're going to be hungover tomorrow, you're like, "Okay, I'm going to have fun tonight, but I'm going to be hungover tomorrow." So it's the same, "I'm going to eat this cake, but I know I'm going to pay for it."

Karin:
And very important thing, my philosophy to life, and maybe some people don't like it, is 80% to be happy, happy with every decision. And you just mentioned it right now, 80% happy with whatever decision you want to make today. You want to get divorced, amazing. You want to eat cake, amazing. No regrets. Do it. If you know what you pay and you are comfortable with the payment, do it.

Mimi:
Yeah.

Karin:
And as long as you don't have regrets. The regrets are the one that eats you. The regrets going to be the part that will clog you, block you and cause you illness. So don't fake smile. I always say smile from inside, because when people look at you, they look the inside of you. They look through your eyes, the radiance of your skin. I mean, fake smile, it's easy to see. And it's so relieved when you smile from inside. When you releasing... [inaudible 00:14:51] I do help people, and it's amazing because they're like my reflection. When they come, I'm like, "Hmm, Karin, what happened? Why they came today? Why with that problem?" Probably something connected to me. And I do help them also with [inaudible 00:15:07] I do help them with clients because during the session I do feel... I mean, I'm a kind of psychic, I do feel it's not the ordinary colonics you're going to get.

Mimi:
Like, energy.

Karin:
Yeah. It's a lot of energy. And a lot of the time I have messages to give to the person and those messages are very strong. And let me tell you sometimes when it connected to... If you picture your colon, so it goes from your right to the left, like that picture, usually the right, descending colon. Let's call it by their name. The descending colon is always connected to influence of father, mother. And if someone holds something there or did some changes, physical changes, and now it's the time to actually let it go. You have no idea how the relief happen. The immediate you say something with your mother and it's like, whoa, right away. And that's the relief, or the descending colon is with husband, changes, divorce. And when something like that happen and it stuck, stuck, stuck, and then there is the relief, the person feels alive. And it's amazing how things that you do in life related to you when you detox.

Karin:
Detox is a big part of our life. We can do detox in so many way, not just colonics. Colonics is a great way to do it. And that's what I'm saying like all those juice fasting, they're amazing, but they're not cleaning. They're just giving you light colon, light system, which is amazing, but they're not going to clean your past. If someone wants to clean their past, they should come to see someone like me.

Mimi:
It's amazing, like how much comes out.

Karin:
Oh, yeah.

Mimi:
You're like, "Wait, how was that possible that there was that much in me?"

Karin:
Listen everybody. We can hold up to 15 pounds of shit.

Mimi:
No way.

Karin:
Yeah.

Mimi:
True. I read a book, this all got me on this path. It was like 20 years ago, my first son was born 22 years ago, and I read a book and I think his, the author was [Kevin Trudeau 00:17:41] or...

Karin:
Oh, [Kevin Trudeau 00:17:44] Yeah.

Mimi:
The one who's in... I don't know. Is he still in jail? I don't even know. They went after him hard.

Karin:
You know what? Maybe I don't know with this medicine it's like so many people are in jail because...

Mimi:
Because they were like, he was promoting it. He was saying, he had a hundred things that you're supposed to do. It was like, "Don't use a refrigerator. Don't use plastics." But this is before anybody was talking about, I mean, a refrigerator, a microwave. This is before anybody who is talking about it. And I remember being like, "Oh, my gosh, this is so cutting edge." And obviously the government didn't like him because they locked him up. Right,

Karin:
Right.

Karin:
But he talked his whole book was about how to lose 15 pounds or 20 pounds by going to get colonic today.

Karin:
Yeah. He talks. That was about 21 years.

Mimi:
Yeah.

Karin:
I bought his book because someone told me like, "Karin, finally, a book that says something about colonics." I mean, let's say, Leo Page says, "After you do six days of detox, go do colonics."

Mimi:
For him, I think was like a whole chapter about it. I mean he was all up about like, "Get colonics, get colonics."

Karin:
Yeah. But he was like, it was good. And that's what brought me for 20 years talking about shit, seeing shit. I mean, helping people. People don't have information more than people don't like to admit they actually use the restroom.

Mimi:
Yeah. It's true. The whole concept of it is very weird if you actually think about it, right.

Karin:
I mean, if you think about it, you can talk on national TV about sex, 50 shade of something, about everything in life. Saying you are farting or pooping-

Mimi:
Well, I was going to ask you that. How did you have any clients [inaudible 00:19:31] celebrities go to the bathroom?

Karin:
Yeah. You're going to be surprised. I'll tell you I'm going to break the myth. Celebs and non-celebs are the same. Shit, shit. There is no diamonds. There is no crayons. There is nothing comes out. And actually, if I want to take celeb versus you or me, they have more stress they're dealing with and they have more blockages, they have more things to deal with, they have more thing... I don't want to use the word hide, but to release so much emotion, just imagine, and not even a celeb, an actor, so much rejection happen in their life so much, right, every time they go [inaudible 00:20:31]

Mimi:
Yeah. I know, like hundreds and thousands of no before they finally got a yes.

Karin:
Right. So you know how much they're holding. You know how much... I mean, to be on the set back then, food was disaster. Now the food is actually great. There is [inaudible 00:20:50]

Mimi:
At least in LA.

Karin:
Oh. Well, I'm in LA. I totally forgot it.

Mimi:
I know. Now that I've left LA, I'm like, ooh, that's like getting gluten-free is like hard to come by.

Karin:
So today food is much better, but emotional there... I've seen them all, from Oscar winners to another Oscar winners to the biggest one. They carry a lot of emotions, guilt, blockages, constipation, skin... When you see them on red carpet, that's after they've seen people like myself.

Mimi:
Yeah. They spent three days getting ready for it.

Karin:
Oh three, no 20, you mean.

Mimi:
Oh.

Karin:
Three is just between the cocktail hours. They need to drink and eat and come clean. And I admire them for getting so much no because I know myself. I wouldn't be that in that position, getting so much no, but it's more than just that. The rejection once and being alone, a lot of them are not trusted, a lot of them are alone, a lot of them pass so many... Even rejection in life, like I'm so here and I don't know if someone like me or love me and not [inaudible 00:22:18]

Mimi:
Now, for you, do you just use open systems or do you use closed systems? Can you talk about the difference?

Karin:
In my clinic, we use closed system by [inaudible 00:22:28] all made in USA, in America, all FDA approval. I only use the high standard speculum. So they're very soft made in the United States. Very important to say that because even today, 20 years after, I still hear people are using nondisposable, which I'm like "What?" I know. Myself, the open system is great. Myself, I don't use it, I don't like it for the client. And the reason is when you sit with me, you have me for the entire hour. I will massage your stomach. I will help you. I will explain every step of the way of what I see, because I usually see what comes out and then I can actually give you recommendation of what to do, what not to do or teasing you, like if you ate more sugar or more this and you're going to tell me no, and I'm going to say, but I see it. So just don't hide.

Mimi:
How does sugar look? What do you see that's there's more sugar?

Karin:
A lot of small sugar bubbles. It's like tons of little bubbles come in one. That's one or if there is a lot of gas, so I would ask... Or sometimes you see carrots and cranberries and they were like, "But I haven't eat it." I'm like, "Well, I see it." It's like...

Mimi:
That from last year Thanksgiving.

Karin:
You see every single thing. So I'm saying don't bother to lie to me. And they're smiling to me. Don't bother to lie to me because I can see it. I'll pretend it's not there, but that's the closed system. Now with the closed system, I do massage your colon, so I believe in helping with my hand in helping natural movement to happen. So I don't use massagers. I think I'm the only one that actually use massage, and not massager that need you. I will use pointy massager if I need to work on one spot and my fingers are not going deep enough, that can happen. But for the main part, I don't like the vibration. I like to work well, that's me. And this is a closed system. With the open system, it's kind of do it yourself. So you don't have a therapist.

Karin:
I don't trust. I want to say I don't trust places that I need to do it myself. This is one thing, probably the one thing you want someone to be there with you. With all the respect to people that want to be alone and they're like scared that [inaudible 00:25:20] someone's going to be with me, because the open system work on the same flow. So the inflow goes in and out and that's why the client, the patient have a lot of cramps, a lot of pain versus the closed system, I control it. So I push the water and then we release and then we do it again. So it doesn't happen in the same time.

Karin:
That's why I said for the client, it's better. And most of the people that had a nightmare from colonics they did the open system before, because all they remember is the insane amount of cramps. And when they come to me, they're like, "Wow, I don't remember. It was like that much," and I'm like, "I know," because we control the pressure. Now open system is good. It will give you the same results, and you know something, there is people that swear by it. Personally, I don't like it, and my client don't like it, and I have client that moved from open to close and they're never going to go back to open.

Mimi:
Let's talk about your book. So when did you decide to write a book? And tell us a little bit about Shit Isn't a Dirty Word.

Karin:
This is my favorite. Well, I'll start. So I did choose to be a colon hydrotherapist long time ago. I love it. I love every day of my life. In 21 years, I've heard every stupid question in this world and I've seen more... I don't even know more than 3000 clients from every angle, young, old, 90 years old, 20 years old, even 15 years old, you're going to be surprised. It's rare, but that can happen, and that happened because of stress. They took her to the hospital. They gave her many laxative. None of them worked. They came to me and we did it. We actually performed the miracle. That's what we call it. So 21 years of questions, and if there is one thing I heard so many times is, "Karin, there is no information. How I never heard about it?" Even you had clients and you say, "Karin, I never heard about you."

Karin:
I've been in LA, never heard about it, because no one talks, no one. I have a client that I swear, he is also a celeb. He lives two houses from my old clinic. He comes to see me now. I live in Tarzana, it's 18-hour away. He's like, "Karin, for 18 years, I could walk to you. I could not believe you were... I didn't even hear about you." No one talks. There is no information. If you're going to take all the books there is out there, they're going to mention colonics. They're going to tell you, do detox, take this, take that and do colonics, but no one really explained nothing about it. I never dreamed about writing a book because English is not my first language. I don't even know how to... I mean, I know how to write in English, but not the book. So I had a client, he's a writer and I was like, "Let's collaborate. You have to record me, but you have to do this session because you are not going to be able to write anything if you don't experience it. You have to know what I'm talking about."

Karin:
Well, he did it. He did many of them, but he understood what I'm talking about. So we start to record session by session and me talking shit and I'm talking freely shit all the time and we created this book. I wanted to create something funny, but not insulting. Funny in a way that I wanted to bring me, the person, Karin. I wanted to give you the experience from the moment you come into my clinic till you leave, this journey. And in this book it's written in the most amazing, funny, very light way. It's not a doctor speaking. There is some medical term because we have to use them, but for the main part, the word shit, I don't even know how many times I say that, probably more than a hundred, but it's for the average Joe, that I'm going to pick from the street to explain him what is colonics. And he will understand in very nice, funny, and related.

Karin:
When you read the book, a lot of the time you laugh to yourself because I'm like, "Hmm, I have it." It's like, it brings a lot of things to you. And it's reminding you like, "Oh, I don't maybe drink enough water, or how is my poop look? How is my kid's poop look? As a mother, very important to see the shape, the color, because that's what I tell them all the time. You don't hold, we let go. And so many things I have in the book that will remind you from the day you were a child. And it's amazing because it's so light and it's a go-back book. You can always go back to whatever chapter.

Karin:
This is when I decided to write a book, I wanted it to be a journey. And I explained there exactly how colon colonics happen, what is it, what is the procedure, and how you feel in every stage. It's so simple to even understand. The main goal was to break the taboo about shit, about pooping, about talking about it. I want people to be able to say, "You know, Karin, if you have constipation, go to colonics, it might help you." Or, "Oh, you don't poop two times a day, maybe check your fibers, maybe you don't take probiotic." I mean, there is so many things we can help with one thing. In the book, there is a beginning, middle and end, and there is always a connection. So I do talk about the connection between colonics.

Karin:
When I say colonics is more detox of the colon and depression, because this is number one killer today, depression and stress. So I do the connection, detox and fertility and I have my own story. I'm not going to break it to you, but I want you to read the book and I'll send it to you. It's my personal story about colonics, detox, and fertility, and I have four kids and they're [inaudible 00:32:12]. And I do help a lot of people with fertility. That's my passion because I've seen those miracles happened. So it's my passion. So I have that end the most amazing chapter I personally love is detox and cancer, and how I help people with cancer and I have to say that.

Karin:
I'm not saving anybody from cancer and as much as I want to, I know I'm not able to, but if I can give each person with cancer another day they can smile, just even using the restroom, I did my part. Because it's not about... and they know it's not about saving them. It's about giving them a way of life, a little bit normalization in their day full of poison and whatever seems to us very regular to go to the restroom, someone that has radiation or chemo, they're so backed up, they can and use the restroom.

Karin:
That's my job. My job is to put that smile, that smile of relief. And that's when I wrote a lot about cancer, about the relationship, and also [inaudible 00:33:35] and the relationship at the end of the day, it's not just colonics, it's about shit. It's about releasing emotions, releasing everything that holds us back, because if we look at it, also cancer is a lot of holdback.

Mimi:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Karin:
Again, I'm not a medical doctor, and I'm not saying that every cancer out there is because of it. I'm just saying that it's another way to look. And that there is so many ways to help those people, just releasing the poison...

Mimi:
Getting the chemo, getting the radiation out, but also, I mean, there's a lot of cancers now that are caused by toxins, in general, like environmental toxins, so getting that out...

Karin:
I know, and my job is just to help them to be normal. Be normal. Be normal for today. Today I pooped. That's a normal day today. The relief of those toxins, cleaning the iris, cleaning their fingers, like their nails. I've seen it happen like a miracle. Nails are so dark black and when we go through that procedure, it's getting white again. And you can see it also in the irises. And one thing, we probably can do another episode somewhere, I don't know when, but about cancer because it's such a related subject to me. And I really love it, even when you are done with cancer, even when someone is healed and they finish everything. What I found is that doctors say, "Yeah, now you are healed. You don't have cancer." Yes, they don't have the disease cancer, but they have everything else. They have depression, they have anxiety, they have stress, they have constipation. They have so many symptoms that I don't know if that's worse than the cancer.

Karin:
They need to live with it. And what doctors do, they finish treatment and they just send them deal with it. You don't have cancer, you are not under my care. And that's when detox comes so handy. There is so much work. So if someone is from LA and need me, you are more than welcome to come. I usually don't charge. That's my thing with cancer because they need many, many sessions. And since insurances don't cover it unfortunately. That's my gift to the world usually.

Mimi:
[inaudible 00:36:12] Now you're in Tarzana.

Karin:
Yeah. I'm in Tarzana, Los Angeles. And yeah, if someone ever needs my help, I'm here to help. I would never judge anybody by money or if you need me, I'm here. Talk to me if you have any questions, talk to me. So yes, this is the book. And also I mentioned everything like supplements. I have my own supplement client that I created for my client that involves probiotics and digestive enzymes and apple cider vinegar gummies that they're amazing. I will send you a box with everything.

Mimi:
[inaudible 00:36:49] post and show people what they are. So purecenter.com is where anybody would go to if they want to see these supplements or the book.

Karin:
Yeah. And they can find the book on Amazon.

Mimi:
Okay. Amazon too. Yes. That's great. And I'll have the link for the book in your website, in the podcast notes below, but thank you so much for your time. This has been amazing, and I really appreciate it.

Karin:
It was my pleasure. I love it. And seriously, if you are in LA, you're more than welcome. I'm planning on giving lectures. Now that everything is open, so I want to do shit detox and relief.

Mimi:
Oh, please tell me when you do.

Karin:
Yeah. New York probably going to be one of my destinations.

Mimi:
I'm right outside the city, so that'd be great.

Karin:
Oh, that would be amazing. Thank you so, so much, Mimi. It was my pleasure. I hope we're going to do a lot of those things in the future, because we have so many things to talk about.

Mimi:
I know. Thank you so much.

Mimi:
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